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Released
  
October 18, 1984

Producer
  
Frank Zappa

Artist
  
Frank Zappa

Label
  
Zappa Records

Length
  
70:45

Them or Us #40 (1984)
  
Thing-Fish #41 (1984)

Release date
  
18 October 1984

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Recorded
  
November 1981 - June 1984 (elements of "Ya Hozna" and "Planet Of My Dreams" were recorded between 1967 and 1976)

Genres
  
Progressive rock, Hard rock, Art rock, Comedy rock

Similar
  
Frank Zappa albums, Progressive rock albums

Them or Us is an album by Frank Zappa, released in October 1984.

Contents

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Album content

Its opening and closing tracks are covers: "The Closer You Are", which was written by Earl Lewis and Morgan Robinson and originally released by The Channels; and "Whippin' Post", originally recorded by The Allman Brothers Band.

"Ya Hozna" is actually a forward basic track with vocal taken from "Sofa No. 2" (from "One Size Fits All", 1975), "Lonely Little Girl" (from We're Only in It for the Money, 1968) and unreleased outtakes of "Valley Girl" (vocals by Moon Zappa) played backwards. "Planet of My Dreams" (featuring Bob Harris on vocals) is a 1981 studio recording taken from the score of Zappa's unrealized 1972 stage musical "Hunchentoot" (several titles from this show also appear on the first-CD edition of Zappa's Sleep Dirt reissue from 1993).

As with other Zappa rock albums of the era, many tracks are sourced from live recordings (mostly with added studio overdubs) although there is no mention of it in the liner notes.

Release

Following distribution problems with Zappa's album Thing-Fish, which former Barking Pumpkin distributor MCA Records refused to distribute, Zappa made a deal with EMI Records, which would allow Them Or Us and Thing-Fish to be distributed by Capitol Records in the United States. Zappa wrote a "warning" which appeared on the inner sleeves of these albums, as well as Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention, which stated that the albums contained content "which a truly free society would neither fear nor suppress", and a "guarantee" which stated that the lyrics would not "cause eternal torment in the place where the guy with the horns and pointed stick conducts his business."

Track listing

All tracks written by Frank Zappa, except where noted.

Musicians

  • Frank Zappa – guitar, vocals
  • Ray White – guitar, vocals
  • Steve Vai – guitar
  • Dweezil Zappa – guitar
  • Tommy Mars – keyboards
  • Bobby Martin – keyboards, saxophone, vocals, harmonica
  • George Duke – piano, vocals
  • Brad Cole – piano
  • Scott Thunes – bass, Minimoog
  • Arthur Barrow – bass
  • Patrick O'Hearn – bass
  • Ed Mann – percussion
  • Chad Wackerman – drums
  • Ike Willis – vocals
  • Napoleon Murphy Brock – vocals
  • Roy Estrada – vocals
  • Johnny "Guitar" Watson – vocals
  • Moon Unit Zappa – vocals
  • Bob Harris – vocals
  • Thana Harris – vocals
  • Production staff

  • Mark Pinske – chief engineer
  • John Matousek – mastering
  • Gabrielle Raumberger – artwork, graphic design
  • Steve Schapiro – photography
  • Bob Stone – engineer
  • Donald Roller Wilson - Cover art
  • Songs

    1The Closer You Are2:55
    2In France3:30
    3Ya Hozna6:26

    References

    Them or Us Wikipedia